The Baloney Detection Kit (or Scientific Method Made Simple!)

As Carl Sagan said "There is a lot of baloney out there". What is the Baloney Detection Kit? It's the scientific method.. or just science!Credit to Carl Sagan who originally developed the Baloney Detection Kit in his book 'The Demon Haunted World".  source: http://www.michaelshermer.com/2009/06/baloney-detection-kit/ The Baloney Detection Kit (on RDF TV)June 2009With a sea of information coming

A new tripod for a world of difference

Celestron CG5 Mount

Posts have been few and far between lately due to being extremely busy with study (adult university distance courses take up a lot of time!), work and other things.

Over the weekend I managed to win an eBay auction for a telescope mount and tripod that I realised I’ve needed for some time: a Celestron CG5 equatorial mount on a “bomb-proof” tripod. It’s essentially what you see to the left, but without the computer and automatic tracking motor.

This became necessary because the motorised mount that came with my telescope is clearly not up to the task of reliably tracking objects — even after deciphering the instructions, carefully levelling the mount base and zeroing the unit, the drift is quite noticeable and requires regular, fiddly adjustment — and astrophotography requires either a fully-computerised AltAz mount that can track an object with pinpoint accuracy, or any level of equatorial mount. Trying to finely-adjust a motor-controlled AltAz mount to track an object is like using an Etch-A-Sketch: bearable for visual viewing, but astrophotography is out of the question. Even a cheap equatorial can track an object easily, providing the gears don’t have too much play in them and the unit is correctly configured.

A barn door mount for a camera would have done the trick, too, but I want to reap the benefits of an equatorial mount via the telescope’s eyepiece, too.

So today I have taken delivery of what appears to be 2/3 of the new mount and tripod assembly, with the joys of eBay meaning multiple packages. It’s definitely a solid, sturdy unit and I can see why the seller stated the need for something “lighter and more portable” — you wouldn’t want to carry this around to your local astronomy society’s evenings.

So once I’ve received all the parts and had a chance to test it out, I’ll post back with some pictures for your stargazing delight…

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The Quiverfull Movement

Not too long ago, I learned about the quiverfull movement. If you don't know what it is this blog discusses her life as a quiverfull mother and her apostasy from this lifestyle. Basically the quiverfull movement is made up of conservative evangelical Christians who are against all forms of birth control. Strict gender roles are enforced and these families are very likely to homeschool their children.

Even though it started in the 1980's, the movement has really began to receive some attention. I'm sure many people are familiar with the Duggar family? The mother has recently had her first grandchild and has given birth.

*Feminist Hat on*
As a feminist this movement caught my attention, because when it comes right down to it, this movement only values women for their fertility. Being a wife and mother is a their main duty, the father is head of the household. But in reality, it was a counter-movement to feminism, many women of this movement believe that women who pursue careers are denying their femininity and their natural instinct to be mothers.

Now what's wrong with women wanting to be wife and mothers? Nothing, there's nothing wrong it. Even First Lady Michelle Obama has quit her six figure career to devote her time to being a SAHM, of course her husband is making $400,000 a year. As a third wave feminist, I don't believe women should be looked down upon for choosing this path, but I believe that as a society we have to take into account the reasons as to why some women choose to be wife and mothers. Of course they choose to do, so but also it's because their husbands can support their families financially on just his income. Some women don't have husbands that are able to do this. Many women out there are in the low income bracket and are probably single parents. That's why I despise the whole "mommy wars" debate because it ignores these women. Which is why I'm critical of women who preach to other women that their duty in life is to be wives and mothers. Oddly enough these same women are working themselves by writing books and touring the country, *ahem* Phylis Schafly. That's called hypocrisy.

At any rate, a woman's identity shouldn't be tied to her being only wife and mother, women should be seen as more than that.
*Feminist Hat off*


Now as for the movement itself, I can't say I don't find aspects of it disturbing, but I also don't know that much about the movement and what's it's like to live in a quiverfull household. My only concern is if this movement attracts abusive men who feel they want to control their wives, as well as how children in these environments turn out. The only thing one can do is watch and see what happens next.

Some links to check out:
All God's Children-Salon article
Quiverfull.com
Wikipedia article on the Quiverfull
Mothers For Women's Lib
Blue Milk-Feminist Mothers

Sinning saints and other quandaries

Priests and other moral figureheads sometimes go bad. That's inevitable, given that there are so many of them. Still, it makes you wonder if there's something more complex going on. Could it be that moral authority actually contributes to immorality?

Back in 2007 there was a study that suggested one way this could happen. People who are convinced of their moral correctness were found to actually be more likely to cheat - because they were more likely to feel that their cheating could be justified.

Now a new study suggests that people have a moral 'set point'. Do a good deed, and the temptation is to make up for it by doing something naughty.

Other studies have shown the moral-cleansing effect, but this new Northwestern model shows that the cleansing also has to do with restoring an ideal level of moral self-worth. In other words, when people operate above or below a certain level of moral self-worth, they instinctively push back in the opposite direction to reach an internally regulated set point of goodness.

"If people feel too moral," Sachdeva said, "they might not have sufficient incentive to engage in moral action because of the costliness of being good." Science Daily

Basically, this was a priming study. The participants were asked to write a short essay either on doing a good deed, or a bad one, or neutral. Those who wrote about doing a good deed were least generous in a variety of follow up tests, especially when the good deed they wrote about was their own.

The next step, apparently, is to see whether the results hold for other cultures.

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Tackling superstition


Apologies it’s been so long, but I’m crazy busy working every day and don’t  have a lot of time. I spend a lot of my space on this blog bashing religion, but I should specify that I don’t think religion is the main problem. Religion is in turn fed by irrationality and superstition, I think weeding out this root cause could solve a lot of the problems we have today.

I spend a lot of time talking with the people at my new job, not least because a large proportion of them speak Spanish and I like to practice. One of my colleagues provided an example of such irrationality at work. She said that she took her flatmate to the bank machine to take out rent money, and after he withdrew the money, he folded the notes over, and a number handwritten on the outside note was the exact same number as the amount of money he’d withdrawn. “How do you explain that?” she said smugly.

My response was to ask her how many times she’d taken money out, folded it up and there was a different number written on the outside note, or how many times there hadn’t been any number written on the note. A statistically unlikely event will still happen if you repeat the situation an excessive number of times, and that doesn’t make it a coincidence, much less a supernatural event.

Dawkins goes through a similar idea in one or other of his books, which I’ll paraphrase here. A TV psychic looks into the camera and tells the audience to look at their watches and clocks, proudly declaring that someone’s will stop right at that second, and that they should call in. 5 minutes later, a few people are calling in, amazed that he was correct. I mean, what are the odds that my watch would just happen to stop right when he told me it would, that’s amazing!

Except that it’s not. If millions of people are watching and they’re each looking at several timepieces, the odds of one of them stopping aren’t all that huge. Next we have people saying “my watch didn’t stop just then, but I was speaking to my aunt in Canada and hers did stop just then, she’s across on the other side of the world and wasn’t even watching, that’s amazing!” Except it’s not. If we’re now including not only the millions of people who are watching but all their friends and relatives that aren’t, then the Population of Events That Would Have Appeared Coincidental (PETWHAC) just grew significantly, but conversely it seems more amazing that a watch belonging to someone who wasn’t even watching had stopped.

So, how do we tackle such basic superstition? Fortunately I think the education system can do a lot of the work for us.

I suggest we start with a basic education in statistics and probability. I’m not hot at all on statistics but I have the basics and it helps a lot. There’s a lot of logic that goes along with it too which often isn’t emphasised. For example, just because there are two possibilities, doesn’t mean that they are equally likely. Most mathematical problems used to teach probability involve 10 different coloured balls in a bag pulled at random, but this is only useful for illustrating equally likely outcomes. There isn’t, as some apologists seem to think, a 50/50 chance that God exists, just because he either does or he doesn’t. A building either stays up or falls down, that does not mean that there’s a 50/50 chance that it’ll fall down at any given moment.

A knowledge of the scientific method would also go down well. My friend wouldn’t have made her silly mistake if she’d known about recall and confirmation bias (she only remembered the time there was a number, and not the hundreds of times there wasn’t), both of which need to be accounted for when we’re practicing science. Put Philosophy of Science on the school science syllabus! This will also make sure everyone knows why clinically controlled trials are essential in proving the efficacy of a treatment, why randomization, blinding and placebo controls are important, and hopefully get rid of people’s faith in unproven alternative medicines. Win/win.

Last but not least, we need to foster an environment of critical thinking. I took a Critical Thinking class at school. It was terrible. We got a history teacher who barely knew the first thing about the subject for a single session a week for 40 minutes, and all he did was teach us what a non-sequitor was (which I could’ve figured out from my Latin class) every week, and we’d mess around for the rest of it. If that was taught properly, that would’ve been the most valuble class I could have taken. But then I suppose Catholic schools aren’t too keen on having rational critically thinking students, are they? Fortunately I’m happy to hear that Critical Thinking will be going on the GCSE syllabus.

As a final thought, remember that dwindling church attendance numbers are not in themselves good news, since lots of these people are losing faith in organised religion simply to go into New Age bollocks or become superstitious and just believe in ’something’. We need to tackle the root cause, not just one of it’s branching weeds.

Get your God Trumps

If this blog has seemed quiet lately, it's because we've been finishing off our July issue, which is now with the printers and due out next week. Inside you'll be able to read Laurie Taylor tackling Dawkins' biggest critic, Terry Eagleton – he flew out to Dublin to interview him, and we can assure you he didn't let him off lightly. There's also insight into an Afro-Cuban drumming cult, Fiona Russell Powell tracking down cult rocker and "living work of art" Genesis P-Orridge (never heard of him before? Me neither – but here's a good place to start), Jonathan Rée assessing the legacy of Isaiah Berlin, our special summer humanist quiz, and much much more.

But it's what's on the outside of the magazine that people are talking about this time – due to popular demand, we've produced limited edition packs of our metaphysical card game God Trumps and there's only one way to get them – subscribe to New Humanist. The first 12 cards and a special box are mounted on the cover of the July issue, and the second 12 will be mounted on the September issue. Don't miss out - subscribe to New Humanist today.

Makes A Change

I suppose it makes a change from a sex scandal, though you could argue that, in the scale of things, it could actually be worse.

According to The Times:

A 60-year-old vicar was charged yesterday with involvement in an alleged criminal conspiracy to organise “sham marriages” for illegal immigrants.

The Rev Alex Brown was one of four people arrested after a series of dawn raids in the Hastings area of East Sussex on Tuesday, which came after an 18-month investigation by Sussex Police and the UK Border Agency’s immigration crime team.

Police searched the offices of St Peter and St Paul Church, St Leonards, and arrested Mr Brown, who has worked in the parish for almost 20 years. He was charged with conspiring to facilitate unlawful entry and solemnising a marriage according to the rites of the Church of England without banns of matrimony being duly published.

Those who liked the vicar would doubtless understand his misdemeanor and point out that clergy are not highly paid and that he was probably building up his retirement fund by performing these public duties.

They might also argue that people are responsible for their own actions and it is not the job of the vicar to moralize over who should get married and who shouldn’t - heaven knows there has been enough public fuss over that recently for the church daring to suggest that some couples shouldn’t get married because they happened to have the same, rather than different, biological plumbing.

Doubtless the Rev Alex Brown used such arguments when trying to square the circle in his own mind and conscience - assuming he had both.

I find at least three things reprehensible about this story.  First, a supposed representative of truth and honesty has become involved in criminal activity, turning a blind eye for his own gain, regardless of the consequences.  I suppose in the light of church history, a little illicit marrying seems comparatively minor, but he should have known better, and should have stayed clear of the crime.

Secondly, it is so hypocritical for a leader in an organization that puts so much store on the value of marriage and the alleged importance of the life-long permanence of a union of one man and one woman before god, to be trivializing the ceremony (or as they would say, the ’sacrament’).  The result is not a life-long union before god, but a piece of paper to be used in deceit and the relationship will almost certainly cease to exist after the ceremony and be legally annulled at some future date.  My issue is not that marriage should necessarily be any of the things the church teaches, but rather that because they teach it, it is so bizarre for one of them to be acting in such a way.

The third issue for me is (strangely) about management and accountability (it reflects my background).  It just highlights how weak and ineffective the management structure is in the church that such a person could get away with it until the police spilled the beans.

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Atheist nations are more peaceful

pdf of Global Peace Index Map (lists all countries).source: http://bhascience.blogspot.com/2009/06/atheist-nations-are-more-peaceful.htmlHASSNERS.org highlightsHASSNERS.org commentsLeave your comments here: (today I counted 119) at Tom Rees blog Epiphenom. Tom says...'The 2009 Global Peace Index has just been released. It's basically a ranking of how turbulent and warlike a country is.They put it

God In "Real Time"

I love this collage of Bill Maher critiquing religion from his HBO show Real Time. He really has a knack for satirizing the credulous nature of many religious beliefs and those who adhere to them, especially politicians. One of my favorite quotes from this montage is “you’re either a rationalist or you’re not.” I just wish Bill was as rational about certain pseudoscientific beliefs as he is about religious beliefs.

Real Time Religion Montage


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57F3hlU-4Og

H/T to onegoodmove.

Linoleum and red vinyl


S. and I are at this diner in downtown Tucson, a kitschy place popular with the hip college crowd. It’s one of those places with lots of linoleum, and worn red vinyl in the booths. Shiny metal counters and napkin dispensers glint in the fluorescent lights. This is no Johnny Rocket’s or 5 And Diner, corporate 50s chic to cater to the family nostalgia demographic. The fading is a bit too real, the small tears in the seats too genuine, for that. It’s genuine fake, the Real Faux Deal. It’s been faking since before your time, been faking so long it has become a real thing. The main attraction, aside from the delightful “dive” ambiance, is that it is open 24 hours, and offers the chance to eat huge bowls of cereal at 3 A.M.

It’s the mid-90s, S. and I are coworkers, and we have come here to have a Conversation. At this point in my life, I’m more than a little lost. I’ve face-planted on the whole life thing. I’m in the Dark Wood, a poor wretch, yada yada yada. I’m pretty sure I don’t believe in God — but I really, really want to at this moment, remembering how I almost had myself convinced, back in high school, that I had found an answer and some peace — though I had found no such thing. I’ve convinced myself that my doubts now are a sign of weakness. Recently, I had read a couple of books that made me very angry — an essay collection by Harlan Ellison (how his famous anti-Christmas article pissed me off!) and Carl Sagan’s The Demon-Haunted World. Both are reminding me of skepticism and asking questions, and damn all if I’m having any of that.

(Later, I will realize that reading The Demon-Haunted World was a turning point for me — from that point forward, I will always have Sagan in my head, whispering questions, and worse, suggesting that it’s okay. It will be years before I fully get that.)

So here is S., my coworker. She’s beautiful, she’s hip, she’s smart, she’s funny. A blond tomboy, careless in her appearance, a haunter of thrift stores. One of her favorite shirts is a UPS shirt she found at Value Village. She’s kind and sweet and listens with an almost scary intensity. You don’t talk with S. — you converse with her, long rambling conversations that cover all the bases, in depth, with lots of laughter throughout. She’s one of those people who seems to almost genetically have her shit together. It’s an illusion, of course. I’ll find, with time, that she has the same problems with that as any of us do. But right now, in this diner, she seems to be a Totally Together Person.

And this Gregory of the mid-90s is all about the gurus. My whole conscious life has been a search for a guru, a person with the answers. A person to save me, to fix the problems of my life, make it all better, iodine, band-aid and a kiss. My romantic life has been a shambles, since I’m always searching for the Magical Woman who will heal me (except for that one time, when I searched for, and found, a bit of poison in female form…). In high school it was B., and the brush with Evangelical Christianity. There was P., and the way I pushed her away with my desperate, needy clinging. There were others, too, the non-romantic relationships, almost always women, often ones I was attracted to. It’s part hormones, part the guru thing, and part my inability to have decent relationships with other men. Because there is always that — I get along better with women, and most of my closest friends have been women.

Anyway. S. I’m a little keen on her, and a lot lost, and searching for that guru. And here she is, in her favorite joint, ready and willing to talk. A Christian. Deeply so. Campus Crusade so. Mission to that heathen land, New Zealand, so. Fact is, that part is bugging me. I have a huge problem with that. I hate Campus Crusade and their ties to right wing extremists. I hate the whole missionary thing. Rational Gregory is already being birthed at this point, and he cringes at all that. And yet. She’s got it all together. She’s happy, she’s relaxed, she seems to know what she wants from life. She’s grounded. She must know Something. Teach me, Guru, teach me! Heck, I think, drowning out the skeptical questions in my head, maybe it’s even that Christianity thing. Maybe I’m missing something, my smarty-pants intellect getting in the way and keeping me from seeing the Truth.

So I’m telling S. about this book I found, an old, faded paperback of Asian religious literature — one of those very Eurocentric affairs, the ones that point to the whole continent of Asia like it’s one cultural group, so that you have Buddhist hymns along with Sufi poets and everything else in between. One of the poems is by Rumi, about Judgment Day, and it has me thinking. It’s long lost to my memory, but I remember it talking about being called to give an accounting of one’s life. I’m being just plain honest when I say that, at this point near the end of the millennium, the accounting on my life is a bit worrisome. I pour my heart out, in a breezy, vague sort of way, and admit that I find myself wondering if that whole Jesus thing might have something to it.

Funny thing is, I don’t remember what she said. I remember that she was sweet and kind, and that we laughed a lot. I remember that she didn’t really push the evangelism, just spoke simply about what she felt and believed. The specifics are lost to me. I mostly remember the scene, in that trashy dive that was real faux. I was really searching for truth, but also not really doing so. I was trying to get answers from someone else, trying to recapture something from my past that had never really been All That to begin with. Chasing a bit of nostalgia for what had never really been, and knowing it deep down. And yet, at the end of day, I was still really, honestly searching. I was being fake and real at the same time. It would be years before the real stuff became more earnest, before I could start to put aside the quest for Truth, the endless search for my magic guru, and begin to really look, myself, for truths. Looking back, though, I know that she never could have convinced me, no matter how hard she tried. Questioning was already part of me, something I couldn’t turn off, no matter how hard I tried.

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Lack of expsoure

I am a person who, even though I don't follow religion, I like to learn about different religious beliefs. Currently, I have taken it upon myself to learn more about Christianity. I like the New Testement scholar Bart D. Ehrman who has written many books, the ones I'm reading are Lost Christianities. As well another book entitled God's Problem.

Lost Christianities essentially covers the lost gospels and how the decision to follow the gospels came to be. There was section which discussed the forgeries of the gospels which was quite interesting to read. God's Problem covers the reasons why there is suffering in the world and explores the Christian response to suffering.

Why have I have decided to devote some of my time learning about Christianity? It's simple really, I feel like I'm learning more about Christianity than I ever did when I was a Christian. I was essentially taught to take everything in the bible at face value. I was never taught as to why certain books made it into the New Testament, hell I didn't even know there were more books!!! As I pointed out in an earlier post, I think the main reason why many African Americans are Christian is because of the lack of exposure to other beliefs. I haven't met many blacks who were atheists or agnostics, except for a friend of mine who is an agnostics, perhaps it's the area we live in, but he told me that he has to explain to people what an agnostic is. This didn't surprise me in the least, I had to explain to mother what a humanist is.

But what's even more troubling is that many ministers don't seem to have in depth knowledge about Christianity. At least that's how it appears to me, perhaps these ministers don't reveal this information (how the New Testament to be, the books that weren't included and why, etc.). I suppose it could come down to keeping people ignorant, being exposed to other beliefs can force one to question their own. But we can't have that now can we? ;)

The Fired Atheist

I recently had some contact with a Boy Scout camp counselor facing termination due to his atheism. I took a keen interest in the case and wanted to share my take on the issue. I am an Eagle Scout and I work for the AHA. Because of my non-theistic outlook (I am not an atheist, simply [...]

Sanford or Bauer : Ineffective lying hypocrite or dangerous temper tantrum having child?

Sitting here torn over whether I would rather have Sanford step down and give raging idiot Andre "Check out my new I Believe License Plate while I crash into your car" Bauer a leg up on the election, or whether it's better just letting him run out the term and continue to be a bumbling mess.


I think I'd rather have Sanford sit up there spinning around bringing more shame to himself, his party and his supposed Christian moral values.

Bauer is terrifying in a "who gave that drunk 7 year old a loaded 12 gauge" sort of way.

To Those Who Doubt Their Religion

This post isn't for confirmed atheists, nor for confirmed theists. It's not for people who've already made up their minds, one way or the other. No, this post is for the seekers, the in-betweeners, the tormented doubters. It's for the uncertain agnostics, people who aren't certain what they believe; it's for people who feel like they [...]

Are faith in God and science contradictory?

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IHEU invites applications for funding in the IHEU-HIVOS Humanist Network and Development programme for 2009. The deadline for applications is 1 September 2009.

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Deconversion: Evolution vs. Revolution

Deconversion is not a uniform process for everyone. Some happen in matter of days, others over the course of decades. Some pass through several phases on their way to atheism, others jump straight from strong belief to strong disbelief. Some can be likened to game of Jenga, in which one belief after another can be removed without affecting others until finally the tower just collapses, others to a game of dominoes, in which the fall of one very basic belief results in the fall of all the others. Of course, most deconversions are somewhere in the middle of the spectrum between gradual change, i.e., evolution, and rapid change, i.e, revolution.

My deconversion certainly falls on the revolution end of the spectrum. Once I became a devout believer in junior high school until my apostasy over a decade later, my status as a religious conservative never changed. At no point was I ever a liberal or even moderate Catholic; I never at all openly questioned any dogma the church taught until I doubted and then rejected all of them at once. I think this is because of how I learned from apologetics to defend my belief from Protestant arguments against Catholicism.

According to Karl Keating in his Catholicism & Fundamentalism: The Attack on “Romanism” by “Bible Christians”, which was the very first apologetic book I ever read, Catholics can justify their religion with the following “spiral logic,” which contrasts with invalid circular logic of fundamentalist Protestants who begin with the unquestioned assumption that the bible is inspired: First, one reads the gospels without assuming they're perfect or inspired, merely historically reliable (!), and one concludes that Jesus must have been divine. Next, one reads in the gospels that Jesus established Peter as a permanent, infallible religious authority, and since the pope is the successor of Peter, he is also an infallible religious authority. Finally, the pope says the bible is divinely inspired, so we can believe it. I realize now, of course, this argument is incredibly weak, but I was only about thirteen years old when I encountered it, and I already believed the conclusion for non-rational reasons. This was my first real exposure to any justification for my religion, and I grabbed onto it tightly. I later learned to rely on alleged miracles throughout the history of the church as confirmation to quell my doubts, but I never forgot that without papal authority, I had no reason to believe almost anything else in my religion. For example, I couldn't know whether the whole of the bible was true without an authority telling me so, and I couldn't trust my own interpretation of it, which necessarily conflicted with that of other Christians. Within this paradigm, faith was not belief without or in spite of evidence; it was trust in papal authority, which I believed was established by logic and evidence. It didn't matter whether there was any biblical, historical or scientific evidence for any teaching since the pope's approval itself was sufficient evidence. Belief in papal authority was thus the rock on which I built my justification for my religion. For the record, I want to clear that I'm not saying this is an entirely accurate portrayal of actual Catholic doctrine, just my own understanding of it when I was a believer.

My belief structure was mostly rational, in a sense, even if badly mistaken, and I dismissed every other kind of faith as blind and irrational. This brought my views into conflict with other Catholics, especially liberal Catholics. Liberals accept some church teachings (e.g., heaven exists) while rejecting others (e.g., fornication is sinful), but if they reject anything, they must reject its basis, papal authority, and therefore have no reason to accept anything else except on blind faith. The church itself doesn't really care why one believes the easy doctrines, even if it laments and preaches against disbelief in the difficult doctrines, but as for me, I felt not only little connection with liberal believers but even with conservative believers who just happened to accept all the church's teachings without directly and explicitly connecting it to papal authority and instead citing mystical faith. Returning to the point of the story, it explains why I never passed through moderate or liberal phases on the road to apostasy.

Over the years, the very same doubts which drive evolution-type deconverts to moderate and then liberal positions also arose in my mind, but I responded to them either by invoking papal authority if they related to the church's teaching or by simply suppressing them due to my intense fear of hell if they related to the basis for papal authority, such as the divinity of Jesus or even the very existence of God. When I finally sat down and examined these doubts, everything hinged on the original argument as forwarded by Keating, held together by the glue of belief in Catholic miracles. There was no way I could reject belief in hell, which had caused me so much agony over the previous five years, without rejecting everything else. The arguments against religion had to overcome everything all at once, but after a few months of intense research and reflection, that's exactly what happened. In the end, I still had to make an emotional effort to admit that it was all over and finally discontinue attending church, but I always knew I couldn't simply return as a weak believer once I faced my doubts. I had gone from believing everything the church taught to believing nothing. The revolution had ended, and reason had triumphed over superstition.

I would guess the evolution-type deconversion is more common among Catholics and mainline Protestants because most never structure their faith on one core belief, and that the revolution-type is more common among fundamentalist Protestants who often do. In a sense, I was a fundamentalist Catholic; because of my background, my fundamental belief just happened to be papal authority rather than scriptural inerrancy. I wonder whether I would have become an atheist in my teenage years if I had never been convinced of the centrality of papal authority and nothing more than blind faith was offered as justification, which I would almost certainly have rejected more quickly. I'm just happy I'm an atheist now.

Parliament set to outlaw extreme religious hate speech against gay people

The British Humanist Association (BHA) has today written to Peers in the House of Lords, urging them to support legislation that will close a loophole which currently exempts a minority of people with extreme religious views on homosexuality from laws banning incitement to hatred on grounds of sexual orientation.

The Existence Of God


We spend a lot of time here talking about peripheral issues in religion and atheism. Oftentimes we get sidetracked, sometimes intentionally, on these peripheral issues. They can be intellectually fulfilling at times, but in the end, like theological Chinese food, they don’t satisfy. But there’s one issue, one single question that never seems to get discussed head on: The Existence of God. I’ve contended here many times, if god doesn’t exist, the rest of this stuff is meaningless blather. Without god, theology is just philosophy and someone needs to prove he exists before I waste a lot of my time reading the Bible.

So I’m going to open up this post and comments to anyone and everyone that has evidence for the existence of God.

I’ll state my prejudices, up front,  for those who don’t already know. I’ve never seen anything that comes close to evidence for the existence of god.  But I have an open mind (I think) so I am willing to be convinced. I’ll even say that if you show me good evidence, I’ll bow down and worship your god, whoever he may be. But I want evidence.

By evidence I want to see something, or hear something, or feel something, or have explained to me something that I can’t see, hear or feel, that can be reproduced at any time by anyone without exception, and capable of being experienced or understood by anyone and everyone equally.

What I don’t want, and what I don’t think will suffice, are quotes from any Holy Scripture, though I won’t delete them if you really feel they are evidence. Don’t get pissed, though, if I don’t respond to them, or if do respond, I do so by quoting another book of my own choosing.

Personal anecdotes are welcome, provided you don’t mind them being dismissed or ridiculed, especially if no one else can corroborate them.

Visions of Jesus, Mary or Mohammad on a slice of toast, a window, or the sky probably won’t cut it, but feel free to give it a shot.

Seriously, this is an opportunity for theists, all three of you who read this blog, to tell the world exactly what did it for you. What evidence did you experience that convinced you that you were worshiping the right deity?

And if you want to say you don’t need no stinkin’ evidence, you just know god exists, then I appreciate your honesty.

Have at it.

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Religious prompts make people more obedient

Submission and obedience are prominent themes in the major monotheisms. However, until now no-one has tested whether religion can actually make people more obedient.

Vassilis Saroglou, a psychologist at Université catholique de Louvain, conducted a clever priming study. The gist of it was that the subjects were asked to write a short essay, which was then marked by another (imaginary) subject. The marker always gave a rather scathing review.

Then the subject was asked to choose some questions for the marker. They could chose from a mix of easy, medium, or difficult questions.

For half of the subjects, the researcher asked them to select difficult questions, in retribution. Also, half the subjects were given a subliminal religious prime, making four groups in total.

And this is what happened. If you look at those subjects that were left to make their own minds up, you can see that those without the religious prime had a slight tendency to choose the more difficult questions. Those with the religious prime were slightly forgiving.

But when the experimenter actually asked them to take revenge, the pattern reversed. Although both groups were more vengeful, those who had been primed with religion flipped from being least vengeful to most vengeful.

It seems that, when the subjects were left to choose for themselves, the religious prime tended to make them more forgiving. But when the experimenter asked for revenge, they complied willingly.

Now, this doesn't necessarily apply to religion in general. The subjects were psychology undergrads at a Belgian University. Although their religious affiliations aren't disclosed, we can take a guess.

But what this does show very nicely is that religion can have complicated, double-edged effects.

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ResearchBlogging.orgSaroglou, V., Corneille, O., & Van Cappellen, P. (2009). “Speak, Lord, Your Servant Is Listening”: Religious Priming Activates Submissive Thoughts and Behaviors International Journal for the Psychology of Religion, 19 (3), 143-154 DOI: 10.1080/10508610902880063

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